1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:11,100 Roswell, New Mexico. It has become synonymous with UFOs and government secrecy. In 1947, 2 00:00:11,100 --> 00:00:14,400 some say Roswell was visited by something we can't explain. 3 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:20,560 That it is not a weather balloon, nor an aircraft, nor a missile. It is something else. 4 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:26,200 In centers of classified government research, officials have always been quiet, which only 5 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,200 stokes the flames of conspiracy. 6 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:34,200 And I always felt that the government had not disclosed everything, that there was something 7 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,640 out there. 8 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,840 But with so little proof, people are looking for any scrap of evidence to support their 9 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:41,840 theories. 10 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,760 I've got it. 11 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,080 And Roswell continues to cash in on the legend. 12 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,120 You would never have heard of Roswell if it weren't for the fact that aliens are claimed 13 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:56,160 to have decided this was the place on earth that they wanted to visit the most. 14 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:01,640 Now, with 50-year-old military programs finally coming to light, will it explain the truth 15 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,240 or just explode the myth? 16 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:10,120 The government did lie about what the crash debris in New Mexico was. We didn't find out 17 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,920 until recently what they were really doing. 18 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:19,240 The battle between fact and fiction continues in the desert today. Explore the shifting landscape 19 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,680 of Roswell. 20 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:26,960 Unidentified flying objects. They've been reported in our skies for decades. Thousands 21 00:01:26,960 --> 00:01:33,120 of UFO sightings have been documented in official government files. Most have logical, scientific 22 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:39,880 explanations. Yet some cases remain unexplained, classified, unidentified. Can newly released 23 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:48,240 files reveal the truth behind these UFO encounters? 24 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:53,280 The story begins with a loud explosion over one of the least populated places in the United 25 00:01:53,280 --> 00:02:03,560 States, the New Mexico Desert. 26 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:10,200 Rancher Mack Brazel is one of the area's few occupants. At daybreak, Brazel decides to head 27 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:15,480 out to investigate whatever made the sound. 28 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:23,160 Deep in the desert, Brazel reports finding an incredible scene. A huge debris field of 29 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:31,840 wreckage. Something reduced to pieces that can't be identified. Whatever it is, it will 30 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:43,120 become the crux of a controversy that for some will never die. 31 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:51,440 Brazel loads an assortment of pieces onto his truck. He drives to the nearest town, 75 32 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:58,640 miles southeast, which happens to be Roswell. The sheriff in Roswell is just as puzzled 33 00:02:58,640 --> 00:03:05,080 by the wreckage as Brazel. He directs him to the local military base, home of the Army 34 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:12,360 Air 509th Bomber Group. The base intelligence officer is Major Jesse Marcell, who became 35 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:19,160 a critical player in the Roswell story. Jesse Marcell is the lead intelligence officer 36 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:27,440 of the 509th Bomber Group. Donald Schmidt has been researching the incident for 30 years. 37 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:33,880 He contacts his base commander, Colonel William Blanchard. Blanchard's impressed enough with 38 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:41,240 the material that he sends out not only Major Marcell, but also his head of counterintelligence, 39 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:52,600 Captain Sheridan Cabot. In the event it's something foreign. The three men pick through 40 00:03:52,600 --> 00:04:00,480 the debris. Pieces of something they can only speculate on. It could very well be a downed 41 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:07,120 aircraft, but they don't know about any downed aircraft. Nothing's been reported. Marcell 42 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:12,640 and Cabot were baffled by the strange material, so they collect some pieces to take back to 43 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:19,400 the base. They believe it could have come from anywhere, including outer space, because 44 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:25,560 at that very moment, the nation is in the midst of a flying saucer frenzy. The thing 45 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:30,280 about Roswell is that it didn't happen in a vacuum. Richard Dolan is a UFO researcher 46 00:04:30,280 --> 00:04:35,520 and author. It was in the midst of a very significant wave of flying saucer sightings 47 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:40,200 that were being reported over the whole western part of the United States. Around the same 48 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:45,560 time as the debris discovery near Roswell, a private pilot named Kenneth Arnold reported 49 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:51,800 a series of strange connected objects flying at high speed in Washington state. He described 50 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:58,480 a series of airplanes or aircraft of some kind that seemed to move like saucers skipping 51 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:04,440 on water. Michael Shermer is a science author and publisher of Skeptic Magazine. Halsey 52 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:09,520 Met was by saucer was they were acting like a saucer skipping on what not that they were 53 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:14,440 saucer shape, but somehow that got confabulated as oh, they were saucer shaped and all of 54 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:21,840 a sudden flying saucers. The media made headlines and the government took notice. They were 55 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:26,360 unknown when they're unknown that concerns the Air Force because the Air Force is responsible 56 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:31,600 for protecting the airspace the United States. Richard Weaver wrote the official U.S. Air 57 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:36,920 Force report about the Roswell incident. Something's flying around in there that we 58 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:41,040 don't know about it can't stop or can't identify, but it may be a threat to the security of 59 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:46,440 the United States. Arnold's sighting and the publicity that followed set off a wave of 60 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:53,600 others. People reported UFOs all over the U.S., Canada and Europe. Back at the Roswell 61 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:59,080 Army Air Base, Major Marcel Mayiff had flying saucers on his mind when he saw the crash 62 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:05,920 debris for the first time. So he reported that he may have found the debris of a crashed 63 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:12,160 flying saucer. Then his superior officer, Colonel Blanchard, issued a public statement 64 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:28,600 using that phrase and fueling a fire. At the peak of the flying saucer frenzy, the government 65 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:37,920 reported that it had one. Newspapers went crazy. But the next day, the Army held a press 66 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:44,720 conference and changed its story. Brigadier General Roger Ramey, Blanchard's superior 67 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:53,640 officer, said that the debris was of a crashed weather balloon. Major Marcel posed with 68 00:06:53,640 --> 00:07:00,360 the material but did not speak. That story seemed plausible but not as exciting as a 69 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:07,800 flying saucer. So the Roswell incident faded away. For decades, it was completely forgotten. 70 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:14,360 In 1959, there was a report issued of the top 500 UFO sightings of all time. And Roswell 71 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:20,920 isn't even on the list. It's not even one of the most interesting top 500. And by 1980, 72 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,600 it's the most important thing that ever happened. Okay, how does that happen? 73 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:32,600 It happened because 30 years after the incident that few people even remembered, Jesse Marcel 74 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:38,280 gave an interview. One thing I was certain of, being familiar with all our activities, that it 75 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:44,680 was not a weather balloon, nor an aircraft, nor a missile. It was something else of which we didn't 76 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:50,120 know what it was. Marcel didn't believe the military's weather balloon story. Instead, he 77 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:56,040 recounted an incident full of mystery and a hint of conspiracy, including new details that raised 78 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:01,240 new questions. The newsmen saw very little of that particular, very small portion of it. They wanted 79 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:06,360 me to tell them about it and I couldn't say anything. And when a general came in, he told me 80 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:13,480 not to say anything that he would handle it. In the 1978 interview, Marcel also revealed that he 81 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:18,360 stopped home on the way back to the airbase to show his family the strange debris he had found. 82 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:27,960 Marcel also told this story to Don Schmidt. Two o'clock in the morning, Tuesday, July 8th, 83 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:34,520 Jesse Jr. He's growls from his sleep by his father. Jesse, I want to show you something. Come out to 84 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:43,640 the kitchen and all this unusual metal-like debris. A lot of it had a lot of little members 85 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:49,640 with symbols that, to me, are called hieroglyphics because I could not interpret them. It could not 86 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:57,080 be read. These little members could not be broken. We even tried making a dent in it with a 16-pound 87 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:05,240 sledgehammer. Still no dent in it. Marcel nicknamed one piece of the debris memory metal because it 88 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:14,040 appeared to retake its original shape no matter how he crumpled it. In 1980, Marcel's story appeared 89 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:21,800 in the National Enquirer, visible to everyone at the supermarket checkout counter. That was the spark 90 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:30,040 that lit a thousand conspiracy theories. Well, the Roswell incident in 1947 has taken on this 91 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:34,680 character as being kind of the genesis story of UFOs in the United States. 92 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:42,840 Dr. Roger Launius is from the Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum. And it wasn't really until 93 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:49,960 the 80s and 90s that this began to take on this large cultural phenomenon. A cottage industry 94 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:57,400 began to take shape, fueled by old questions, new allegations, and the timeless art of making a buck. 95 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:05,000 Thirty years after the incident, an anonymous town suddenly becomes anonymous with alien secrets 96 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:13,320 and government conspiracies. There seems to be a general phenomenon in UFology actually, 97 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,360 in which there's some incident and then the whole thing fades. 98 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:23,240 Seth Shostak is the lead astronomer for SETI, the search for extraterrestrial intelligence. 99 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:28,440 Then somebody resurrects it and says, no, no, no. There was some sort of cover up or there was 100 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:33,400 information you didn't know about. I've interviewed some more people, whatever. Suddenly it comes out 101 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:38,520 of the shadows again with renewed vigor. This happens over and over again. It certainly happened 102 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,840 with Roswell. Roswell went away. It was a discredited story for a long time. And then people started 103 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:50,440 writing books. Many came forward with new allegations, building the Roswell incident into a modern myth. 104 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:56,600 Frankie Rose says her father was sent to the crash site as a firefighter. 105 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,320 They thought they were going to a crash site of an airplane, 106 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:06,920 but when they got out there, it was a flying saucer. She says her father gave her a piece 107 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:13,080 of metal from the crash, echoing the story of Jesse Marcell and his family from 40 years earlier. 108 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:20,680 It was a piece of material that was so soft that my dad could wad it up into his hand 109 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:29,160 and then drop it. It had no wrinkles at all. The matching stories could be a sign of accuracy 110 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:33,720 or a sign of one person's accounts seeping into another's decades later. 111 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:43,800 Tales like this fuel the Roswell legend, which has grown far beyond simple crash debris. 112 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:51,160 Among other beliefs are alien bodies hidden in a government warehouse. Their images are now 113 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:57,960 embedded in pop culture. The stories have grown more bizarre over time. Roswell itself is morphed. 114 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:06,360 It gets more mythical as you go on. New things keep coming up and new people keep coming forward 115 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:15,160 after all these years. It's a business now. The business continues to grow with the continuous 116 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:21,960 seeding of government conspiracy theories. I always felt that the government had not disclosed 117 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:27,000 everything, that there was something out there. Even New Mexico's former governor Bill Richardson 118 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:33,320 is suspicious when the government keeps quiet. Everything seemed to be classified. I would ask 119 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:39,160 questions. They'd say, what's classified? National security. I said, well, come on. I'm a member of 120 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:46,120 Congress. What do you know? What can you tell me? And the government would just stare blankly, say 121 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:53,080 nothing. When it comes to classified programs, most politicians accept some secrecy as part of the 122 00:12:53,080 --> 00:13:00,440 deal. Sometimes the government has to lie to keep something secret. And so when UFOlogists say, 123 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:06,200 yeah, the government lies, it's like, well, yeah, duh. I mean, you just figured that out. I mean, 124 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,640 I mean, you've been paying attention. But the fact that they lie about this over here doesn't mean 125 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:14,920 they're lying about the thing you would like to be true. So if someone wants UFOs to be true, 126 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:19,000 a secret government offers a wide open window to endless speculation. 127 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:25,000 Some are putting their own Roswell theories to the test under the baking sun of the New Mexico 128 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:35,000 desert. The exact location of the 1947 crash site near Roswell, New Mexico is not marked on any map. 129 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:41,800 Rancher Mack Brazils family has kept the site a secret to avoid curious, uninvited visitors. 130 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:49,480 Only a select few claim to know where it is. And one of those people is UFO researcher Donald Schmidt. 131 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:55,800 Schmidt believes this is the scene of the Roswell crash and the debris field was secretly cleaned 132 00:13:55,800 --> 00:14:04,920 out by the US military in 1947. Well, what we have during the course of two and a half to three days, 133 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:15,960 you had 50 to 60 men that came out as far as in trucks and they would line up shoulder to shoulder, 134 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:22,920 even get down and hands and knees. As one of the MPs described to us, their orders were, 135 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:30,360 if it doesn't move, bag it. But more than 50 years later, some think there may still be crash debris 136 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:35,640 hidden in the vast desert and they will go to extreme lengths to look for it. 137 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:44,280 Geologist Frank Kimbler teaches Earth Sciences in New Mexico. He hopes the remoteness of the site 138 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:51,000 has kept some evidence from being disturbed. It's too remote. It's clean. And so the things that you 139 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:57,240 get in a metal detector are the types of things that might be odd, especially since this area 140 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:01,960 is the debris field from the crash site. So the potential for finding something is really good 141 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:08,840 because it has not been contaminated. But covering such a vast expanse on foot makes it very time 142 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:16,680 consuming. I have been out here many times in the past searching the area for hours on in. The search 143 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:22,440 for some kind of concrete debris is intense because you got to have it. It's what we skeptics are 144 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:28,840 demanding. That's a nice story. But what have you got to show me? Does Kimbler have a chance of finding 145 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:37,480 any useful evidence in the sand a half century later? Another mysterious crash site offers hope that 146 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:46,280 he does. In 1986, something crashed in a mountainous desert near Bakersfield, California. Government 147 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:52,040 officials kept everyone out and cleaned it up themselves, which roused a lot of suspicion. 148 00:15:53,400 --> 00:16:00,040 In many ways, this incident parallels the classic UFO crash stories. Peter Merlin is an 149 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:07,160 investigator who has visited over 100 aviation crash sites. An unknown vehicle crashed in a 150 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:14,120 remote rural area. The government took control of the site and security was extremely high. 151 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:22,040 Armed guards everywhere. Controlled perimeter. No fly zone. A decade later, the incident was 152 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:29,720 declassified. The report reveals it was not an alien spacecraft, but an F-117, the famed stealth 153 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:38,440 fighter. The stealth fighter represented at that time the pinnacle of military aviation technology. 154 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:43,240 It was absolutely cutting edge. An airplane that was virtually invisible to radar detection. 155 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:49,480 The Air Force didn't want pieces of that falling into enemy hands. It was imperative that they try 156 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:56,840 to clean up as much as possible. The F-117 crashed on a remote mountain, deep in the wilderness. 157 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:05,240 Merlin knows the military swept the site. Now, he wants to find out if anything got left behind. 158 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:11,000 At the time this airplane crashed, it was a top secret special access program. 159 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,320 They tried to clean up the site, but as you can see it's very rugged terrain. 160 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:22,360 It's a steep mountainous canyon with lots of rocks. They had a couple hundred guys out here 161 00:17:22,360 --> 00:17:30,600 working in the dead of summer. A lot of rattlesnakes, heat. Finding debris at the Bakersfield site 162 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:36,520 could offer hope that something could still be found near Roswell. Merlin scans an area near 163 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:43,720 the edge of the debris field. Almost three decades after the crash, the chance of finding anything 164 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:51,720 seems like a long shot. But then Merlin gets a hit. 165 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,320 Got something here. 166 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,840 Yep, here's a piece. 167 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,560 Looks like a piece of aluminum. 168 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:17,000 Then another. And another. Merlin finds over a dozen pieces of something. 169 00:18:18,360 --> 00:18:24,600 Got a little piece of aluminum structure here. If the Roswell incident involved the crash of an 170 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:30,360 actual space vehicle, I would expect that you would be able to go there today and find physical 171 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:37,640 evidence. If you can find pieces of a known black project, surely you can find pieces of a UFO. 172 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:45,080 Merlin's logic may not so easily translate into success for Frank Kimbler near Roswell, 173 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:52,360 but that won't stop him from trying. Working in a grid, Kimbler combs an area he's never examined 174 00:18:52,360 --> 00:18:56,360 before. He searches for two hours. 175 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:07,080 Oh, I got a hit. I got a nice clean ping on this, so it doesn't sound like iron, so I need to dig it up, 176 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,080 see what's there. 177 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:20,920 It's in this thing, it's in that one. 178 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,320 There we go. 179 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:32,520 This tiny piece of metal could be anything, but the distorted and stressed appearance 180 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,520 raises Frank Kimbler's hopes that it's a piece of debris from the crash site. 181 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:44,920 That's what's exciting about this. When you come out here and find pieces like this that might be from a space 182 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:53,880 craft, now we have some proof in hand and it goes back to a lab to be tested and it just doesn't get any better than this. 183 00:19:53,880 --> 00:20:01,560 A 20th century mystery is about to get some 21st century analysis. Did Kimbler find earthly junk 184 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:07,880 or otherworldly material? Is he about to break an old UFO cold base wide open? 185 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,880 Today is a wonderful day. 186 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:12,840 Roswell, New Mexico. 187 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:22,840 Geologist Frank Kimbler has discovered a tiny piece of metal in the desert where something crashed in 1947. 188 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:28,840 The Genesis of the Roswell UFO legend. 189 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,840 I think it's fantastic. 190 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:38,840 Kimbler's hope to unearth new evidence now hangs in the analysis of this mysterious piece of metal. 191 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:47,800 You know what? The next thing we need to do is we need to take this into a lab and we need to get it tested to find out exactly what it is 192 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,800 and hopefully find out where it came from, which is the key point. 193 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,800 He sends it to the University of New Mexico in Albuquerque. 194 00:20:55,800 --> 00:21:01,800 Mike Spildy studies minerals from extreme environments, including Mars. 195 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:07,800 The university's electron microscope can reveal exactly what it is. 196 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:14,760 Spildy mounts tiny fragments on an epoxy disc. 197 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:20,760 We need a very fine smooth surface for the micro probe analysis. 198 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:28,760 He then puts the sample in an electron microscope, which can measure every element in the metal. 199 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,760 So now the sample's inside underneath the electron column. 200 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,720 Edx will give us a spectrum of the metal. 201 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,720 Let's see what it is. 202 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,720 Spildy begins to interpret the readout. 203 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:51,720 So on these lighter regions we have a lot of aluminum, some silicon, some manganese, and some iron. 204 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:59,720 We can determine what type of alloy it is by measuring the aluminum, silicon, iron and manganese, which we'll do next down here. 205 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,680 He consults a chart of known alloys. 206 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,680 So we look for fairly high concentration of manganese. 207 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,680 So we've got one there. 208 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:16,680 Then we want to match up with silica and magnesium. 209 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,680 The results are still unclear. 210 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:24,680 Kimbler's piece is some kind of aluminum alloy and contains a significant amount of magnesium. 211 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:31,640 It's the magnesium that could unlock the secret to where this metal comes from. 212 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:37,640 Magnesium isotopes are kind of a chemical signature. 213 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,640 David Thomas is a scientist at New Mexico Tech. 214 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:51,640 If you had some spaceship from another star system that was made of magnesium and it crashed, on earth its magnesium content would be different. 215 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,600 It's like a fingerprint. 216 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,600 So we use isotopes to identify strange materials. 217 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:08,600 An isotope test will reveal the exact physical structure of this mystery metal and determine whether it comes from earth or elsewhere. 218 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,600 Frank Kimbler is one of many who are thirsting for new information about the Roswell incident. 219 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,560 From 1947 to 1978, this was not on America's radar screen. 220 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:29,560 Roswell had not been associated with UFOs and there was little reason to doubt the government's story at the time. 221 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,560 It was a crashed weather balloon. 222 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:37,560 But while the Roswell story remained dormant, the flying saucer craze swept America. 223 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:43,560 It was fueled by constant media exposure, triggering all manner of claims and debates. 224 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:58,520 There's kind of a feedback cycle when it comes to UFO sightings because as soon as you talk about flying discs and they start talking about those in 1947, then suddenly you're getting reports of a lot of flying discs. 225 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:04,520 So by the time Jesse Marcell resurfaced and recast a 30 year old story nobody knew, 226 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,520 and while Jaro came in, 227 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:12,520 into a story everyone needed to hear, the Roswell incident grew into the great American mystery. 228 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,480 And the quintessential government conspiracy story. 229 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,480 America is very fertile ground for conspiracy theories. 230 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:29,480 If there are things being seen in the sky all the time and you think that they are not just UFOs but actual alien craft and the government says no they're not, 231 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,480 well what are you going to do? 232 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,480 You could either change your mind or you could assume that maybe they're covering up. 233 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,480 And I think for Americans it's a great temptation to assume yeah they're probably covering up. 234 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,440 For years rumors swirled and stories flew and the government said little. 235 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,440 It frustrated even those inside government. 236 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,440 Finally at the request of Congress the U.S. Air Force officially reopened the case. 237 00:24:52,440 --> 00:25:00,440 In 1994 Colonel Richard Weaver led the official U.S. government investigation into the Roswell incident. 238 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,440 I did go into this with a really open reasonable mind. 239 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,400 The first part is something that would probably be one of the greatest things in history. 240 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,400 How cool would that be? 241 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,400 Weaver says his orders were to investigate all possibilities no matter where the evidence led him. 242 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:21,400 The result is a comprehensive report that runs almost 1,000 pages. 243 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,400 One theory he explored. 244 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,400 The craft was a top secret project inherited from Nazi technology. 245 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:33,400 At the time in New Mexico were a number of captured V-2s and their variants that we took from the Germans. 246 00:25:34,360 --> 00:25:38,360 The V-2 was the world's first long-range missile. 247 00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:44,360 Developed by the Nazis and seized by the U.S. immediately after the war. 248 00:25:44,360 --> 00:25:48,360 Weaver's team considered whether a secret V-2 crashed at Roswell. 249 00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:54,360 Because it wasn't a very reliable rocket it was kind of a point and shoot and hoped that it landed kind of where you wanted it to. 250 00:25:58,360 --> 00:26:02,360 But they uncovered no evidence to support this idea. 251 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,320 Another theory. A top secret nuclear project gone awry. 252 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:13,320 We looked at a nuclear accident because the 509th at the time was the only people in the world that had nuclear weapons. 253 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:17,320 So it was a pretty big deal to see if something had gone wrong involving a nuclear weapon. 254 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,320 And there was nothing there. 255 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,320 With no evidence of a downed missile or radioactive debris. 256 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:27,320 Weaver's team looked at mistaken identity for experimental planes. 257 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:32,280 There were German aircraft developers that had advanced aircraft that the Nazis had been working on. 258 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,280 We wanted to get our hands on. The Russians wanted to get their hands on. 259 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,280 They looked at those to see if this possibly could have been something that had been exploited. 260 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:44,280 But there was just nothing out there to support any of that kind of conjecture. 261 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:52,280 The Air Force investigators examined classified files and interviewed witnesses and experts from every angle. 262 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,240 They looked everywhere to find an explanation. Earthly or alien. 263 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,240 And finally found something extraordinary. 264 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:05,240 Army Intelligence Officer Jesse Marcell was right. 265 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,240 It was nothing he had ever seen before. 266 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,240 That it was not a weather balloon. 267 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,240 Nor an aircraft nor a missile. 268 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,240 It was something else which we didn't know what it was. 269 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:26,200 In 1947 a rancher found a crash debris in the New Mexico desert. 270 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,200 The mysterious materials baffled authorities. 271 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,200 The military called it a crashed flying saucer. 272 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,200 And the legend of Roswell was born. 273 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:42,200 It is the most talked about UFO incident in history and the most controversial. 274 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:49,160 But it is not included in the government's most famous compilation of UFO investigations. 275 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:57,160 In 1952 the U.S. Air Force responded to a hailstorm of UFO sightings by starting project Blue Book. 276 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,160 They were determined to investigate UFO phenomena. 277 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:07,160 Blue Book was an effort by the Air Force to find out what these phenomena may have been 278 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,160 if they were a threat to national security. 279 00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:18,120 In 2017 straight years the Air Force investigated thousands of UFO reports all over the country. 280 00:28:18,120 --> 00:28:20,120 Out of genuine concern and caution. 281 00:28:20,120 --> 00:28:26,120 Typically what they would do is they would bring together a dozen or so experts. 282 00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:28,120 And these were very expert experts. 283 00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:32,120 These are people who knew about upper atmosphere physics. 284 00:28:32,120 --> 00:28:34,120 They knew astronomy. They knew aeronautics. 285 00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:38,120 They knew the things that you would need to know to try and figure out what these things were. 286 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:43,080 Because the Roswell incident didn't resurface as a UFO mystery until much later. 287 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,080 It was not investigated by Project Blue Book. 288 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,080 But there is an incident within these pages that mirrors the circumstances of Roswell. 289 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,080 A possible UFO crash. 290 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:57,080 It's called the Kecksburg Incident. 291 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:01,080 Which occurred in the Great Lakes region of the U.S. and Canada. 292 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,080 The event happened late on the afternoon of December 9th 1965. 293 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,080 Stan Gordon was 16 at the time. 294 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,040 He's been researching the incident ever since. 295 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:16,040 There were multitudes of eyewitnesses from Ontario Canada over Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania 296 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,040 that observed this brilliant fireball moving across the sky. 297 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:22,040 And that object whatever it was came in over the greater Pittsburgh area. 298 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:28,040 And reportedly fell in a winter ravine for a close to where we're standing outside of Kecksburg, Pennsylvania. 299 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:34,040 Many people saw this object making turns making kind of a slow landing. 300 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,000 Leslie Kane is an investigative journalist who has written extensively on the Kecksburg Incident. 301 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:45,000 Some people saw it make turns. Some people saw a fire coming out the back of it. 302 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,000 And it crashed in the woods. 303 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,000 Was it a meteor? A fallen satellite? 304 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,000 Air Force investigators interviewed eyewitnesses and searched the area. 305 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,000 But they reported finding nothing. 306 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,960 Officials concluded that the object was probably a meteor. 307 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,960 Hear that? 308 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,960 But locals near Kecksburg tell a far different story. 309 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,960 In 1965 I was out cruising in my convertible. 310 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,960 When I heard on WHJB that something had landed in Kecksburg. 311 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:29,960 I come down the hill through Kecksburg and there was some people standing alongside a farm road. 312 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,960 I stopped and asked them what had happened. 313 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,960 They said well back this road something had landed. 314 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,960 And I looked down in through the field into the woods. 315 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:45,960 And I could see where something had tore up the underbrush and the trees as it landed. 316 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:53,960 And I could see a blue bluish light like a welder's light that was getting bright. 317 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,960 And then real dull and it continued to do that the whole time I was here. 318 00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:05,960 Locals say the military moved in quickly and forcefully to protect the site. 319 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,960 The military were everywhere. They were going in every which direction. 320 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:19,960 They were being positioned throughout the fields along with the state police. 321 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:25,960 And then after that the state police and the military come up and they told everyone to leave. 322 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:33,960 Those who claim to be eyewitnesses told a story that sounds nothing like the official explanation of a meteor. 323 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:39,960 And though government investigators scoured the purported landing site and found nothing. 324 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:45,960 Locals recall mysterious events on the ground. 325 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:53,960 They described an object in the woods large metallic and shaped like an acorn big enough for a person to stand inside. 326 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:59,960 They're estimating from the debris around it that this thing is maybe 10 to 12 feet or more in length. 327 00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:03,960 Approximately maybe 8 to 10 feet or so in diameter. 328 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:09,960 And of course what's interesting is that back part with what they call the ring gear, the bumper, it's raised up on the back of the acorn. 329 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:17,960 Raised up on that with these unusual markings that look more like symbols than writing. 330 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:25,960 Bill Weaver says he saw men carrying a large wooden box. 331 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,960 They was carrying a box about 4 to 5 foot square. 332 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:36,960 And they walked down through the field into the woods toward this blue light that was flashing off and on. 333 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:44,960 But when I left they hadn't come back out yet. 334 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,960 Mike Slater was 14 years old at the time. 335 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:55,960 All that remains of his childhood home are the steps where he says he had an encounter with the military. 336 00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:01,960 I was sitting on the steps of my home when we heard that there was a possible landing on top of Kexburg Hill. 337 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:07,960 And as I was sitting there I had noticed a jeep coming into town. 338 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,960 Slater says the jeep stopped right in front of his house. 339 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:17,960 And he said to me, had there been a lot of people asking for directions to where the site is? 340 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,960 And I went, well yes, they have been and I've been given directions. 341 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:28,960 He said, you could do your country a great service if you would not give him directions or if you did, don't send him up there. 342 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,960 So I didn't. I either said no or I gave him wrong directions. 343 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:38,960 After that, Slater says he saw the military remove a large object. 344 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:43,960 On the flatbed was a tarped object which was sitting more toward the front of the truck. 345 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:48,960 And it wasn't going that fast. It went by me. I got a great view of it as it left town. 346 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:56,960 Some have since wondered if instead of a meteor it was a crashed Soviet satellite that the government wanted to keep from the general public. 347 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,960 There has never been a clear answer that satisfies everyone. 348 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:08,960 So just like the Roswell incident, some are looking for physical evidence to solve the mystery decades later. 349 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:15,960 In 2003, retired forestry professor Dr. Ray Hicks examined the alleged crash site. 350 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:22,960 I was given some photographs and as I looked around I found one of the trees that was in the photograph. 351 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:27,960 Hicks believes he identified the tree that was located in the center of the site. 352 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:35,960 That tree right there is this one. 353 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:46,960 This tree right here which was also apparently decapitated, something happened to knock the top out of it. 354 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,960 That tree has broken down and fallen over. 355 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:55,960 He finds a few damaged trees, isolated in a narrow area in the woods. 356 00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:03,960 I tried to establish what the path was that the object took through the woods and then I found some trees that had damaged to their top. 357 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,960 In fact, the top had been broken out. 358 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:12,960 Core samples taken from the trees put an exact date on when they were damaged. 359 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:21,960 And I noticed that a very dramatic decrease in growth occurred in a given year and it turned out that that was 1965. 360 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:26,960 The men wonder what could have caused tree damage like this. 361 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:36,960 So if we're looking at some type of weather event, whether it be an ice storm, a tornado, even a microburst, you would think it would be more extensive damage, 362 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,960 but it seemed to be isolated just at that path where the tree damaged once. 363 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:49,960 That tree experienced a very dramatic reduction in growth right at the year that this object had fallen here. 364 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:55,960 Isolated tree damage could be caused by many factors, including a meteor strike. 365 00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:02,960 But after decades of searching, there is no evidence that anything landed here, let alone a UFO. 366 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:11,960 Tree rings can tell a tree's story, but they can't confirm a UFO story. 367 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:16,960 In Kecksburg, its official government report versus local legend. 368 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:23,960 Without any new evidence, it remains a matter of opinion as to what happened in the Pennsylvania forest. 369 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:30,960 But in the New Mexico desert, Frank Kimbler hopes he can shed some scientific light on the Roswell incident. 370 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:38,960 With a tiny metal fragment he found buried in the dirt where many think a UFO crashed in 1947. 371 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:43,960 New isotope tests on the piece could uncover evidence of non-earthly origin, 372 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:48,960 and the U.S. Air Force rocks the Roswell case with a shocking discovery of its own. 373 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:55,960 It was a top secret program that was considered to be as important as the Manhattan Project. 374 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:06,960 Frank Kimbler uncovered a tiny piece of metal near the reported site of the famous Roswell crash of 1947. 375 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:14,960 Electron microscope analysis already determined it to be aluminum alloy with a significant amount of magnesium. 376 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:22,960 That magnesium can now undergo an isotope test to determine the origin of the metal. 377 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:35,960 At Trent University near Toronto, isotope researcher Bastion Gayorg can discover whether the sample comes from our planet or somewhere else. 378 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:43,960 The question would be really, if you find something that's very abnormal, doesn't fit what we typically see on Earth, 379 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:51,960 or typically see meteorites from our solar system, could this be an indicator for magnesium being derived from either solar system, 380 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,960 which would then obviously involve interstellar travel? 381 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,960 He includes two other control samples in his test. 382 00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:04,960 One is a piece of aluminum from a 1940s military plane. 383 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,960 The other is a common soda can. 384 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,960 For good measure, we throw in a soda can. 385 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:18,960 We just wanted to make sure that maybe these artifacts that have been discovered are not just cans that were lying in the desert for 50 odd years. 386 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:25,960 So now we wait for the last bit of the iron and manganese to drip through into the waste. 387 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,960 The results arrive in real time. 388 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:37,960 On the screen I see now the isotope, the peak scan of the different isotopes of magnesium. 389 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,960 The science is conclusive. 390 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,960 So the magnesium isotope composition of all these three pieces is identical with an error. 391 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,960 They're all plot in the range of what we would typically see on planet Earth. 392 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,960 The fragment found in the Roswell Desert is not extraterrestrial. 393 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,960 But could it still be an intriguing piece of history? 394 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:12,960 Back in New Mexico, Michael Spildy performs further analysis on the fragment and discovers that the material is not what you would expect to find in the middle of the desert. 395 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,960 High tensile strength, construction of aircraft structures. 396 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,960 So it's basically an aircraft aluminum. 397 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,960 If it's aircraft aluminum, it could be crash debris. 398 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,960 Spildy dates the alloy and reveals a new mystery. 399 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,960 The material predates the Roswell incident by more than 10 years. 400 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:49,960 The fragment seems to be from aircraft aluminum developed in the 1930s. 401 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,960 It could be from an unknown plane crash or a piece of military equipment. 402 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,960 But it's definitely not evidence of an alien spaceship. 403 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:06,960 Frank Kimbler did indeed make a fascinating historical discovery, just not the one he was hoping for. 404 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,960 But he remains undaunted. 405 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:16,960 I don't give up. I've never given up on anything and I'm certainly not going to give up on hunting Roswell artifacts. 406 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,960 Richard Weaver didn't give up either. 407 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:27,960 His official Air Force investigation into the Roswell incident had carte blanche to look into every file and under every rock. 408 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:35,960 Despite decades of rumors, they did not uncover any flying saucer parts or alien bodies. 409 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:44,960 But they did find something remarkable hidden in the shadows for over 50 years that appears to explain it all. 410 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,960 It's codename Project Mogul. 411 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:55,960 Project Mogul was a top secret program that was considered to be as important as the Manhattan Project. 412 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:07,960 Project Mogul was an interesting project and in some respects one of a series of sort of weird ideas that got pursued in the early Cold War era. 413 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:19,960 And it was a set of balloons that were attached like a guide wire and they have on these sensing instruments that would be able to detect a nuclear blast. 414 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:33,960 And what they were trying to do was to get evidence by using ionospheric movement of sound waves for the so-called whom they believe were working on an atomic bomb. 415 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:41,960 The time it was considered to be category A1 top secret because we didn't want the Russians to know that we were monitoring them. 416 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:50,960 A Project Mogul balloon was actually an array of kite-like objects and instruments measuring an incredible 700 feet long. 417 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,960 Weaver's team thinks they've discovered the smoking gun. 418 00:41:54,960 --> 00:42:01,960 A Mogul Array test flight in June 1947, simply known as number four, went missing. 419 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:08,960 Number four fits the parameters of when this material was found. 420 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,960 Brasel brought this in in the first week of July of 1947. 421 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:19,960 The timing works out, but do the Project Mogul materials match up with what Mac Brasel found in the desert? 422 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:26,960 A Mogul balloon was, to say it was a balloon, is kind of a misnomer because it's a balloon train. 423 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,960 Sometimes these things were as tall as the Eiffel Tower. 424 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:37,960 Part of the array is what's called Array One Target, which is strikingly similar to the materials found by Brasel. 425 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:49,960 Array One Target is about a big, it's very silvery, it's a metallic substance, but it's like on parchment type of paper or material. 426 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:55,960 Almost kind of leathery feeling, you know, it's not easily ripped like tin foil that you get at the store, 427 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,960 but it wasn't this miraculous spring back thing that's been described. 428 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,960 Super lightweight, balsa wood, tin foil, weird little symbols, military symbols. 429 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,960 So how would you describe this if you know nothing about it? 430 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,960 Oh, it's really spooky, it's weird, it's whatever. 431 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:17,960 It has nothing to do with UFOs and extraterrestrials and aliens and astronomy and science. 432 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:24,960 It has everything to do with myth making, storytelling, how the media operates, you know, how things take on a life of their own 433 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,960 and become an event culturally but not in reality. 434 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:36,960 Fifty years after the Roswell incident, the U.S. Air Force releases the most convincing explanation yet for the crash debris, 435 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,960 a covert spy balloon that had to be kept secret at the time. 436 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:49,960 So at first, Jesse Marcell's theory of a crashed flying saucer seemed like a good ruse for the press. 437 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:55,960 You've got a top secret program that's underway that you certainly don't want the Soviet Union to know about. 438 00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:00,960 It becomes almost a cover story for this particular instance. 439 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:07,960 That's misdirection of the best possibility in terms of media attention because everybody's chasing flying saucers 440 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,960 and they're not chasing a secret government program. 441 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:15,960 But perhaps the media attention to the flying saucer story was so immediate and intense 442 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:22,960 that the Air Force changed the story a day later to a much less interesting crash of a standard weather balloon. 443 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:33,960 With the discovery of Project Mogul, Weaver is confident that his exhaustive research finally gives the Roswell incident a measure of investigative fact. 444 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:39,960 As we went through, we had to go where the evidence took us. So I'm satisfied with what we found. 445 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:48,960 It took almost 50 years for the military to uncover its own secrets and produce a plausible explanation for the Roswell incident. 446 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:54,960 So that sounded like it just explained everything that had happened at Roswell. Yes, it was something secret, but it didn't involve aliens. 447 00:44:54,960 --> 00:45:01,960 But of course, that's not a very interesting story now, is it? Wouldn't you rather believe that, you know, the aliens had crash landed there? 448 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:07,960 The Roswell story has grown into a cornerstone of American conspiracy theories. 449 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:15,960 Despite a case that appears closed, it will provoke more scrutiny and certainly provide more income. 450 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:28,960 The most quintessentially American thing about the Roswell incident is the free enterprise capitalist system that has grown up around Roswell in the aftermath of it. 451 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:37,960 There's stores and museums and, you know, all kinds of paraphernalia and the knickknacks you can buy and stuff like that. It's kind of a happening. 452 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:44,960 That is a part of this whole particular story. I believe that is fundamentally American. 453 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:53,960 A saucer crash. A spy balloon. A mystery. And a marketing bonanza. 454 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:58,960 Perhaps Americans will always want Roswell to remain unidentified.